by Blue & Maroon » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:04 pm
MultipleJesuses wrote:I'm over Colo wrote:
I've never really understood the common story being told by TJR and others. I've never thought England caved under pressure or even underachieved in tournaments. They never should be one of the favourites, but they also typically beat the nations in their groups they should, and then lose to a better country in the knockout round. This past Euros maybe being an exception. Obviously they draw a lot of attention due to the PL's popularity, but generally I've found England does as they realistically should in tournaments, neither overachieving or underachieving.
I'm a little bias because I'm Irish and hate the English, but from my POV what usually happens is England beat someone like Macedonia 4-0 and the press hype them up to no end, this continues right up to the mouth of a major tournament where they'll make you think England are up there with the likes of Germany, France, etc. Then England inevitably go in the Quarters (or earlier) and the press spends the rest of the summer lambasting the players and manager and calling for change, until September when England beat someone like Macedonia 4-0.
I think if you look at the media before Euro 2016 and the fans on social media everyone was saying how s*** we were
Obviously we outdid ourselves losing to Iceland. I honestly think the whole overhyped England thing is generally made up nowadays, people often just get a bit excited before tournaments which is fine imo but is often seen as fans overhyping things. It's all a matter of perspective as well, don't know why **** Scotland don't get more s*** for expecting to qualify for every major tournament. It's as ridiculous if not more than England expecting to win a major tournament.
[quote="MultipleJesuses"][quote="I'm over Colo"]
[b]I've never really understood the common story being told by TJR and others[/b]. I've never thought England caved under pressure or even underachieved in tournaments. They never should be one of the favourites, but they also typically beat the nations in their groups they should, and then lose to a better country in the knockout round. This past Euros maybe being an exception. Obviously they draw a lot of attention due to the PL's popularity, but generally I've found England does as they realistically should in tournaments, neither overachieving or underachieving.[/quote]
I'm a little bias because I'm Irish and hate the English, but from my POV what usually happens is England beat someone like Macedonia 4-0 and the press hype them up to no end, this continues right up to the mouth of a major tournament where they'll make you think England are up there with the likes of Germany, France, etc. Then England inevitably go in the Quarters (or earlier) and the press spends the rest of the summer lambasting the players and manager and calling for change, until September when England beat someone like Macedonia 4-0.[/quote]
I think if you look at the media before Euro 2016 and the fans on social media everyone was saying how s*** we were <laugh> Obviously we outdid ourselves losing to Iceland. I honestly think the whole overhyped England thing is generally made up nowadays, people often just get a bit excited before tournaments which is fine imo but is often seen as fans overhyping things. It's all a matter of perspective as well, don't know why **** Scotland don't get more s*** for expecting to qualify for every major tournament. It's as ridiculous if not more than England expecting to win a major tournament.
