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Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Remember Colo » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:04 pm

Mifune wrote:Pretty insane that if Evans had racially abused Cisse instead of spitting at him, and if Cisse had responded by going in high with two feet trying to break his leg instead of spitting back, then both of them would be facing shorter bans.
The discipline doled out in sports (all sports) is so often off-base. It's weird what is perceived as the worst behaviour. I get that spitting is incredibly disrespectful, but it's shocking that dangerous play that could end a player's career, or other more serious acts aren't punished more heavily than a stupid spat.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by biggeordiedave » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Just watched the goal <puke>. f***ing anywhere but there! Why not just stick it out for a corner!? <****>. The defending to get the ball was brilliant and then just utter madness. What a load of s***.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by ALF » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:50 pm

Beatski wrote:considering cisse then spits at him and then spends the next two minutes kicking off at him for spitting, to come out and say 'i knew nothing about any spitting incident until the next day' is a more than a little bit implausible
It's the Man United way.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by beatski » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:18 pm

considering cisse then spits at him and then spends the next two minutes kicking off at him for spitting, to come out and say 'i knew nothing about any spitting incident until the next day' is a more than a little bit implausible

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by cbrad NUFC » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:44 pm

Ramone wrote:If he didn't mean to spit at Cisse why didn't he just say that instead of denying it?
Wouldn't be surprised if he's been told by someone at Man Utd to deny all responsibility in the hope of getting away with it.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Goat » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:31 pm

Ramone wrote:If he didn't mean to spit at Cisse why didn't he just say that instead of denying it?
That's what I mean. It may have not even crossed his mind where he remembered it. Players spit all the time. They don't exactly go "hmm, I feel like spitting now". It's just auto-pilot. No one really remembers or thinks about burping or coughing, do they?

In the heat of the moment, when he was focused on the altercation with Cisse, he could have spat as he was walking away without even giving it a second thought or remembering it (at least until he saw the videos).

I'm not saying I'm right. I genuinely have no idea what really happened. It's just the impression I got. Either way, they've both been charged anyway.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Ramone » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:10 pm

If he didn't mean to spit at Cisse why didn't he just say that instead of denying it?

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Toondes » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:05 pm

Or he is desperately trying not to look like a filthy cronut

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Goat » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:27 pm

ALF wrote:
Goat wrote:I don't think Evans did actually try to intentionally spit at Cisse to be honest.

Players spit all the time. I think he was just looking at Cisse and then spat on auto-pilot without really thinking just as he went to walk away.

That's just the honest impression I get from the video.
It wasn't walking away though, Cisse had just stood on his ankle and had a little kick out, then Evans stared down at him with a face like thunder and spat.
I may be wrong, but it's just honestly the impression I get. He wasn't exactly foaming at the mouth with rage. He also didn't bother to even hide it, so he would have known he'd get caught immediately and face a lengthy ban if he did it intentionally.

To me, it just seems like he may have automatically spat as he walked away. Players do it dozens of times per game and perhaps he just wasn't thinking. It's not like this is a Newcastle player I'm desperately trying to find a way to defend. It's just the impression I got.

PS: The fact he's denying it is another factor. It's clear as day that he did spit and it's captured on video, so the only reason he would possibly defend it (unless he's really that stupid) is if there was no intention and it was just a moment without thinking.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Little Lion Man » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:23 pm

Mifune wrote:Pretty insane that if Evans had racially abused Cisse instead of spitting at him, and if Cisse had responded by going in high with two feet trying to break his leg instead of spitting back, then both of them would be facing shorter bans.
Never really thought about it like that <erk>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Mifune » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:47 pm

Pretty insane that if Evans had racially abused Cisse instead of spitting at him, and if Cisse had responded by going in high with two feet trying to break his leg instead of spitting back, then both of them would be facing shorter bans.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by ALF » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:40 pm

Jaiston wrote:
ALF wrote:
This. Cisse deserves the 7 game ban and Evans the 6. Also, should we be looking at selling Cisse? 10 games missed through suspension in one season is disgraceful.
He's f***ed up but that would be such a stupid idea. He's rescued us this season and without him we would be deep in the relegation fight.
He's lost his temper and will miss over a quarter of the season because of it. Sounds somewhat familiar.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Jaiston » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:29 pm

ALF wrote:
Toondes wrote:This. Both guilty and both should be banned. disgusting.
This. Cisse deserves the 7 game ban and Evans the 6. Also, should we be looking at selling Cisse? 10 games missed through suspension in one season is disgraceful.
He's f***ed up but that would be such a stupid idea. He's rescued us this season and without him we would be deep in the relegation fight.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by TJR » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:27 pm

ALF wrote:
Toondes wrote:This. Both guilty and both should be banned. disgusting.
This. Cisse deserves the 7 game ban and Evans the 6. Also, should we be looking at selling Cisse? 10 games missed through suspension in one season is disgraceful.
I suspect we'll be looking to cash in on him this anyway as he'll be 30 in June and he's out of contract in a years time.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by ALF » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:16 pm

Toondes wrote:This. Both guilty and both should be banned. disgusting.
This. Cisse deserves the 7 game ban and Evans the 6. Also, should we be looking at selling Cisse? 10 games missed through suspension in one season is disgraceful.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Toondes » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:08 pm

This. Both guilty and both should be banned. disgusting.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by bodacious benny » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:19 pm

Goat wrote:I don't think Evans did actually try to intentionally spit at Cisse to be honest.

Players spit all the time. I think he was just looking at Cisse and then spat on auto-pilot without really thinking just as he went to walk away.

That's just the honest impression I get from the video.
It's not a natural reaction to spit in the direction of a person sitting on the floor in front of you though. He'd at least spit the other way.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:03 pm

Daveunited wrote:'Manchester United defender Jonny Evans insists he did not spit at Newcastle striker Papiss Cisse when they clashed in last night's Premier League match.

Evans says: "I am shocked to have seen the media coverage from last night's match. I would like to make it clear that I did not spit at Papiss Cisse.

"I was totally unaware of any spitting incident and had assumed that the issue at the time was with the challenge and his attempted retaliation to the tackle from the floor."

"It is not in my character or in my nature to spit at anybody nor is it something I have ever done or would ever do. It is certainly not something that I did last night."'
I really don't get why players do this, they set themselves up for such scrutiny <disgrace>

Everyone has seen the replays (even himself!) and yet, he still tries to plead his innocence.

Why can't he just admit that he did something wrong and be done with it and save himself the embarrassment.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Daveunited » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:56 pm

'Manchester United defender Jonny Evans insists he did not spit at Newcastle striker Papiss Cisse when they clashed in last night's Premier League match.

Evans says: "I am shocked to have seen the media coverage from last night's match. I would like to make it clear that I did not spit at Papiss Cisse.

"I was totally unaware of any spitting incident and had assumed that the issue at the time was with the challenge and his attempted retaliation to the tackle from the floor."

"It is not in my character or in my nature to spit at anybody nor is it something I have ever done or would ever do. It is certainly not something that I did last night."'

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Manchester Utd - 04/03/15

by Aldridge Prior » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:51 pm

Star-Lord Mehdi wrote:Cisse admits it, means that they'll be a bit lenient with his ban. Evans denying it, means they'll be harder on him.
But he plays for Manure, so he'll get away with it...

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