Colly wrote:Defence would be the correct word.

Colly wrote:Elliot stays until an injury or drop in form for me. Neil's shot stopping is outstanding but Elliot has far better control of his area and his defense, and when we're as shaky as we are that's what we need. It shouldn't ever be an automatic pick as there really isn't much between them.

Neil is my favourite autocorrect since Dr Hong so it's staying there.

gotcoffee wrote:

Pretty Terrible Attacking Options wrote:
We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, why would you change it?

I see why you asked, but when I made the 'we've picked up max points ..' statement I based that on the comment that de Jong offers nothing at all, which in my opinion he does in settling a side that's collapsed pretty spectacularly in recent matches, I'm not sure Cisse provided as much benefit in the last two matches and having Perez in may not necessarily be better but it wouldn't be in any way detrimental .. not sure I could say the same if de Jong was dropped as he adds more at the moment ..

Beatski wrote:also, I've missed three toon matches this season: Norwich, Liverpool and Tottenham


looks like i might have to quit football. or worse; start watching sunderland matches.
it would be for the greater good

Colly wrote:What would you say Cisse's role in those wins are? Lulling our opponents into a false sense of security for an hour?

Pretty Terrible Attacking Options wrote:

gotcoffee wrote:
We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, so must offer something .. and I reckon that 'something' is a certain calmness and stability, reckon he's just off the pace at the moment but would like to see him start against Villa behind Perez rather than Cisse because some of his passing & touches are sublime (few as they are at the moment) .. needs match sharpness

We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, why would you change it?

P.T.N wrote:Based on his last few performances, do you guys think Elliot should stay as our No.1 when Krul is fit again? If he carries on the same way till Krul comes back I think it would be extremely unfair on him for Krul to come straight back into the side.

Pretty Terrible Attacking Options wrote:

gotcoffee wrote:
We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, so must offer something .. and I reckon that 'something' is a certain calmness and stability, reckon he's just off the pace at the moment but would like to see him start against Villa behind Perez rather than Cisse because some of his passing & touches are sublime (few as they are at the moment) .. needs match sharpness

We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, why would you change it?

P.T.N wrote:Based on his last few performances, do you guys think Elliot should stay as our No.1 when Krul is fit again? If he carries on the same way till Krul comes back I think it would be extremely unfair on him for Krul to come straight back into the side.

gotcoffee wrote:

The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco wrote:
He offers nothing to the team at all.

Spends most of his time just running around (a bit like Colback).

We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, so must offer something .. and I reckon that 'something' is a certain calmness and stability, reckon he's just off the pace at the moment but would like to see him start against Villa behind Perez rather than Cisse because some of his passing & touches are sublime (few as they are at the moment) .. needs match sharpness

Colly wrote:I think there's room for rotation (where we can before the 'how does Colo keep playing?' crowd pipe up), we went through a run of horrendous form where Perez wasn't looking particularly great and Dr Hong was crying out for game time. He's looked decent enough in the last two games (most surprisingly with his willingness to win balls back and in the air) and he's given us the opportunity to have decent fresh legs on the bench for a change. It's revitalised the team and Perez himself by the looks of it.

I think we still haven't found our best side yet but I'm fairly certain it doesn't involve Cisse, I'd start Dr Hong off Mitrovic on Saturday before bringing Perez on for Dr Hong or Sissoko. No complaints of course if Perez starts, nice problem to have for once.

Southern fairy wrote:

gotcoffee wrote:
We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, so must offer something .. and I reckon that 'something' is a certain calmness and stability, reckon he's just off the pace at the moment but would like to see him start against Villa behind Perez rather than Cisse because some of his passing & touches are sublime (few as they are at the moment) .. needs match sharpness

I do agree about the calm style he has with a couple of clever balls and nice touches but you have to think about where de Jong was when we've scored our last 4 goals - on the bench.

gotcoffee wrote:

The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco wrote:
He offers nothing to the team at all.

Spends most of his time just running around (a bit like Colback).

We've picked up max points the last two times he's started, so must offer something .. and I reckon that 'something' is a certain calmness and stability, reckon he's just off the pace at the moment but would like to see him start against Villa behind Perez rather than Cisse because some of his passing & touches are sublime (few as they are at the moment) .. needs match sharpness