Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

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Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Minty Fresh » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:10 pm

Speedo wrote:I just watched the highlights of this game. How did we not win? De Jong, Wijnaldum, Cisse, and Mitro all should have scored.
You could argue Perez and Sissoko too. Basically all of our attacking players got 1 very good chance and they were all fluffed. <laugh>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Remember Colo » Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:14 pm

Southern fairy wrote:
fuzzfactor wrote:
Exactly what some of us seem to forget on here. It's not McLaren's fault ffs, do you except him to score himself or something? For me, the performance is exactly the same than the one against Norwich, but funnily (I don't even know if this word exists <laugh>), no one complained after the match.

Newcastle fans <awe>
Depends what/where you read..

I was buzzing after the Norwich game, but there was two things massively evident to me, as I'm sure it was to a lot of other people on here:

1. Our defending for both goals was shocking and really highlighted the problems we tend to have in tracking runs, supporting your full-back, and closing down crosses.

2. It was so end to end that we probably could have lost 6-2 and the difference was mainly the quality of Gini's finishing that day.

I'd say we're mostly pretty sensible in rating the team's performances and capabilities, here anyway. I hate reading the fan comments on the Chronicle for example <disgrace>
Our defending yesterday was a lot better than that Norwich match - so I'd agree; of the two performances we probably deserved for yesterday to have been the better result, not that sports work that way

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Southern fairy » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:25 pm

fuzzfactor wrote:
Speedo wrote:I just watched the highlights of this game. How did we not win? De Jong, Wijnaldum, Cisse, and Mitro all should have scored.
Exactly what some of us seem to forget on here. It's not McLaren's fault ffs, do you except him to score himself or something? For me, the performance is exactly the same than the one against Norwich, but funnily (I don't even know if this word exists <laugh>), no one complained after the match.

Newcastle fans <awe>
Depends what/where you read..

I was buzzing after the Norwich game, but there was two things massively evident to me, as I'm sure it was to a lot of other people on here:

1. Our defending for both goals was shocking and really highlighted the problems we tend to have in tracking runs, supporting your full-back, and closing down crosses.

2. It was so end to end that we probably could have lost 6-2 and the difference was mainly the quality of Gini's finishing that day.

I'd say we're mostly pretty sensible in rating the team's performances and capabilities, here anyway. I hate reading the fan comments on the Chronicle for example <disgrace>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by fuzzfactor » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:24 am

Speedo wrote:I just watched the highlights of this game. How did we not win? De Jong, Wijnaldum, Cisse, and Mitro all should have scored.
Exactly what some of us seem to forget on here. It's not McLaren's fault ffs, do you except him to score himself or something? For me, the performance is exactly the same than the one against Norwich, but funnily (I don't even know if this word exists <laugh>), no one complained after the match.

Newcastle fans <awe>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Speedo » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:19 am

I just watched the highlights of this game. How did we not win? De Jong, Wijnaldum, Cisse, and Mitro all should have scored.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Lidl » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:08 am

Imagine how attacking our line up would be with Thauvin/Mbabu on the left and Sissoko/Janmaat on the right <awe> especially if we're then having to fit Wijnaldum in centre mid somewhere. Would basically mean having two centre backs and probably Anita staying back and everybody else bombing forward. Make it happen Steve!

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by bodacious benny » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:34 pm

Can see us losing 3-1 to Everton then beating WBA. I'd take that tbh.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by el héroe » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:32 pm

I just cant understand why he doesn't give Mbabu another shot. He was superb against Chelsea and we're gonna need him against Deulofeu on boxing day coz he'll f***ing slaughter Dummett <negmas>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by LONDONTOON » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:43 pm

For what I saw it was very difficult to play football in a swimming pool.

Thauvin played well though,so nice dribbles and nice balls into the box. No point in not playing him

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Yacob » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:58 pm

It was a disappointing result, but if we continue to put the effort into matches that we are at the moment, we will climb the table. 7 points from the last 3 games is a good return and needed as results around us have been terrible, but at least it has close the gap between relegation and mid table, dragging more teams into it.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Jaiston » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:14 am

Minty Fresh wrote:Honestly think we would've ended up losing that game if Krul was in goal instead of Elliot. He kept calm and started taking responsibility when we were under the cosh, whereas Krul normally ends up as panicky as the rest of our team. There was one catch in particular where if he'd stayed on his line Gestede probably would've buried the header (given he was up against Colo, who was pathetic in the air yet again), and I don't think we'd have seen that from Krul.

Thauvin looked reay promising when he came on, we really should've made more out of his crosses because a few of them looked really dangerous.

Dummett was f***ing horrendous but I do have a bit of sympathy for him because playing Wijnaldum left-wing just exposes his flaws even more as he's never got anyone to pass to.

And people should cut Sissoko a bit of slack, he was dead on his feet by the end of the match and was still our most creative player.
Elliot was not calm at all in the last 20 minutes, kept coming into 'no mans land' to get the ball which he was nowhere near. He was very lucky.

Thauvin is good crosser of the ball, hopefully we can give him a few more chances late on in games when the opposition fullbacks are tired.

Dummett <awe> Proving even fans no matter how s*** they are can play for Newcastle.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Blue & Maroon » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:57 am

Jaiston wrote:
Chappy wrote:You don't take your chances and you'll get punished, even against bottom of the league. That's the Premier League for you.

Sissoko is bone fuckin idle btw. Totally worth the 139 mile journey up...

<grinch>
He was non stop <laugh> Constantly back and forth and part of almost every attack.
He was lazy as f***, never got across quick enough to cover Janmaat. It's part of the reason we've conceded so many goals this season with him being an idle t*** and Wijnaldum liking to drift inside our fullbacks have been completely exposed.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Chappy » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:46 am

If Elliott keeps this form up, I hope he doesn't get instantly dropped when Krul is fit again.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Minty Fresh » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:09 am

Honestly think we would've ended up losing that game if Krul was in goal instead of Elliot. He kept calm and started taking responsibility when we were under the cosh, whereas Krul normally ends up as panicky as the rest of our team. There was one catch in particular where if he'd stayed on his line Gestede probably would've buried the header (given he was up against Colo, who was pathetic in the air yet again), and I don't think we'd have seen that from Krul.

Thauvin looked reay promising when he came on, we really should've made more out of his crosses because a few of them looked really dangerous.

Dummett was f***ing horrendous but I do have a bit of sympathy for him because playing Wijnaldum left-wing just exposes his flaws even more as he's never got anyone to pass to.

And people should cut Sissoko a bit of slack, he was dead on his feet by the end of the match and was still our most creative player.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by bodacious benny » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:22 pm

Anyone feeling too downbeat should remember one thing. Villa are 10 points from safety <diva>

That's an early Xmas present for everyone!

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by jpg » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:37 pm

Very disappointing result in the end. The rain certainly spared Villa but we really should have taken our chances.

Still, 7 from 9 is a good turnaround especially after that Palace game; we've looked like a much better side ever since.

Oh and Villa are definitely going down.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Chappy » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:36 pm

Going forward yeah, coming back... No.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Jaiston » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:35 pm

Chappy wrote:You don't take your chances and you'll get punished, even against bottom of the league. That's the Premier League for you.

Sissoko is bone fuckin idle btw. Totally worth the 139 mile journey up...

<grinch>
He was non stop <laugh> Constantly back and forth and part of almost every attack.

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Chappy » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:30 pm

You don't take your chances and you'll get punished, even against bottom of the league. That's the Premier League for you.

Sissoko is bone fuckin idle btw. Totally worth the 139 mile journey up...

<grinch>

Re: Newcastle Utd vs Aston Villa - 19/12/15

by Lidl » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:27 pm

Nice to see a decent performance from Thauvin. Should give him a bit more confidence.

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