Match day thread - West Ham United v Newcastle United

by **bodacious benny** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:02 pm

Only just caught the highlights after being out yesterday.

Wilson is a goal scorer and not afraid to shoot (better version of Gayle). Lewis was very encouraging with his attacking play down the left. Pleasing to see Hendrick do well and actually be present in the box.
Too many time’s last season we’d be attacking with nobody in the box.

All in all, solid start and given we traditionally take about 10 games to get our first win on the board it’s really good to see us start with a win.

by **WillNewcastle** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:20 pm

Have to admit I was very underwhelmed when we signed Hendrick but he looks a very solid signing on a free. As someone else said he is tidy on the ball and gave a nice balance.

Thought all the new lads looked good, Lewis looks full of energy and offers an actual threat going forward unlike Dummet. Similar to when we had Willems it is so good to have a fullback who can bomb on and get crosses and even shots off.

Wilson was superb, looks a complete striker and sniffs out chances. Gets in positions and makes runs that Joelinton just doesnt do. He also can hold the ball up a bit too and seems quite a powerful lad.

ASM looks to be starting the season like he left off, an absolute livewire and they just resorted to hacking him down constantly.

Hopefully give the likes of Fraser, Joelinton, Longstaff etc a run out in the cup, feels unbelievable to have options now and a decent squad of players we can actually rotate.

by **bodacious benny** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:43 pm

Beatski wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:16 pm
From what i gather, Hendrick mainly playing on the right for Burnley was a lot like Barton for us in that he's a central mid but can do a good job on the right. Could see a pairing of him and Hayden in the middle working well for us in a 4231 if we need a bit more ball winning ability (maybe with a longstaff in the hole in front of them)

Yeah wasn’t one of the reasons he left Burnley because Dyche couldn’t guarantee he’d get to play in his preferred position in the middle?

by **ALF** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:21 pm

We've got so many options now it's quite scary.

by **beatski** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:16 pm

From what i gather, Hendrick mainly playing on the right for Burnley was a lot like Barton for us in that he's a central mid but can do a good job on the right. Could see a pairing of him and Hayden in the middle working well for us in a 4231 if we need a bit more ball winning ability (maybe with a longstaff in the hole in front of them)

by **Hjl** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:05 pm

The three new guys looked like the three best players in the team.

Oh, and that's what a forward scoring a goal looks like! He looks like Pele next to Joelinton.

by **Sanchino** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:43 am

Speedo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:43 am

Captain Obvious wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:53 am
Not to be all doom and gloom but I do think they were terrible and hit the bar twice and Soucek should have scored. That said we controlled the game and were deserving of the win. Hendrick had a good game but I couldn’t really work out where he was playing and f*ck me I think he’s slower than Shelvey. Interesting to see how Almiron and Fraser can fit into that team, presumably one can come in for Andy (who also had a good enough game). Well if we’re gonna play 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1 you can probably only get one of them in. Just didn’t love the team selection and really do think it was more a case of them being terrible.
The thing is I think we knew they were going to play a very physical style - Bruce reckons they had 8 men over 6’ 3”. I can totally imagine us switching to a 4-2-3-1 for games like Brighton next week, which will be a more mobile game, Carroll won’t be able to play 85 mins in that. In a 4-2-3-1 there’s much more space for Almiron and Fraser.

I think and hope that this is evidence of us just becoming tactically more versatile vs. committing to 4-4-2 every week.

This.

I'll like to see this eventually.. especially for games at home

Duba
Manquillo Lascelles Fernandez Lewis
Hayden Shelvey
Fraser Miggy ASM
Wilson

Would be hard to get Hendrick out of the team if he carries on the form he showed yesterday. Doesn't look like a natural winger with speed and skill but more of a right midfielder/central midfielder with decent technique (passing/control/touch/football IQ), high work-rate, helps out defensively and will chip in with a few goals/assists here and there. Looks like a decent all-round team player.. sometimes you need those sort of players who don't do anything amazing/spectacular/eye-catching but give a nice balance to the team, keeps things ticking over and does all the simple stuff well. Maybe there's a reason AC Milan wanted him?

by **seaside nipper** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:36 am

New signings look very settled and promising of more to come.
Matched up against them and deserved the win as opposed to sneaking a lucky win.
The depth of squad is much enhanced and looking at our bench it was the assuring instead of a WTAF cringe.
Expect a tougher test next week against Brighton but another win and it’s a great start for us, build some belief and with the squad additions, s***, I have pulses of optimism

On the other hand West Ham looked lacking in motivation , sluggish at times and downright awful the rest of the time.

by **krully** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:01 am

Hayden and hendrick were absolutely phenomenal for us in the midfield

by **Colly** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:47 am

Yep even from the first ten minutes it was clear he wasn't going to be an orthodox winger, but st the same time he was constantly there for Manquillo. Very positive.

by **Don Sholeone** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:55 am

Did anyone notice how much Hendrick was popping up in the box, he was in there for nearly all of our good chances, wondering if we will see more of that or whether it was more to do with his position for this match. I was getting some Kevin Nolan vibes from him, can see him bagging a few goals and assists if that something we see more of for the rest of the season.

by **Speedo** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:43 am

Captain Obvious wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:53 am
Not to be all doom and gloom but I do think they were terrible and hit the bar twice and Soucek should have scored. That said we controlled the game and were deserving of the win. Hendrick had a good game but I couldn’t really work out where he was playing and f*ck me I think he’s slower than Shelvey. Interesting to see how Almiron and Fraser can fit into that team, presumably one can come in for Andy (who also had a good enough game). Well if we’re gonna play 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1 you can probably only get one of them in. Just didn’t love the team selection and really do think it was more a case of them being terrible.

The thing is I think we knew they were going to play a very physical style - Bruce reckons they had 8 men over 6’ 3”. I can totally imagine us switching to a 4-2-3-1 for games like Brighton next week, which will be a more mobile game, Carroll won’t be able to play 85 mins in that. In a 4-2-3-1 there’s much more space for Almiron and Fraser.

I think and hope that this is evidence of us just becoming tactically more versatile vs. committing to 4-4-2 every week.

by **Don Sholeone** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:42 am

You can only beat whats in front of you. We were very positive and on the front foot for most of the game, we created lots of chances and defended well. Sure West Ham were not the best but I didnt see anything from us to suggest we wouldn't have won if they had played well. Also think us being the more positive side stopped them from getting in the game.

by **Captain Obvious** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:53 am

Not to be all doom and gloom but I do think they were terrible and hit the bar twice and Soucek should have scored. That said we controlled the game and were deserving of the win. Hendrick had a good game but I couldn’t really work out where he was playing and f*ck me I think he’s slower than Shelvey. Interesting to see how Almiron and Fraser can fit into that team, presumably one can come in for Andy (who also had a good enough game). Well if we’re gonna play 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1 you can probably only get one of them in. Just didn’t love the team selection and really do think it was more a case of them being terrible.

by **Remember Colo** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:49 pm

Hjl wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:46 pm
All in all I'd say I was fairly happy with that.

Hard to tell if we looked good or west ham looked crap. A few more he's and we will have a better idea.

New signings looked legit though.

They were pretty crap, but I appreciated our intent. We went out wanting to win the match and set up to attack - which was before we knew they were going to phone it in for 80 minutes.

by **Hjl** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:46 pm

All in all I'd say I was fairly happy with that.

Hard to tell if we looked good or west ham looked crap. A few more games and we will have a better idea.

New signings looked legit though.

by **Don Sholeone** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:38 pm

All the new lads had cracking games, Hendrick looks quality, Lewis solid and busy, Wilson looking like a great piece of business, especially if we keep creating chances for him.
My only complaint would be the subs, they were very late and a bit odd, would have brought Carroll off sooner and would have given Fraser at least 10 minutes.

by **Crouching Shola Hidden Talent** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:32 pm

I can confirm that i am now feeling positive, however I am notoriously fickle so I look forward to being a penis when we draw/lose the next game.

It's the Newcastle way.

by **The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:31 pm

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The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:23 pm

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by **Ol' Dirty Bas Dost** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:30 pm

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Think I’m on there now. Got some hacky stream from ESPN brazeeel.

Any upgrades welcome
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