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Re: Players from relegated clubs

by bodacious benny » Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:44 am

Not for me. Even as a third choice we can do better now, 3 in 19 for Betis (Spain isn’t the most challenging league to score in; look at Josleu), last 2 seasons for Leicester he has 4 goals in 45 games.

Whilst I think he got unnecessary stick from our fans before he left, it’s a firm no from me.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Colly » Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:12 am

Plus he'll get more goals than Almiron other than purple patch Almiron. Would he count as home grown?

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by beatski » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:11 pm

would unironically be a perfect signing. we need a 3rd choice striker, who ideally could play across the front 3. plus he presses like a madman

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Colly » Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:33 pm

<ayo>

Available on a free.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Donkey Toon » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:36 pm

Remember Colo wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:46 pm
Bodacious Benny wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:41 pm
I still don't buy into the notion that there aren't good players at relegated clubs who could improve our squad and do a job. Liverpool signed Andy Robertson from Hull didn't they? That worked out alright. Realistically *most* of the players we bring in will be to supplement the first team initially rather than be a 38 game a season player, other than a left back and possibly a midfielder of some description. There's definitely scope to pick up some younger talent from relegated clubs for fair money to develop them and embed them in the squad. The likes of Lavia, Gnonto, Summerville, Tyler Adams, even Wober who's only 25 so not at his peak for a defender.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certain we'll be looking at a few big, established names for big fees, but there are options to supplement those with potentially if prices are reasonable. I would say I wouldn't be blowing huge money on any of them so that's what it will come down to.
I don't think DT was suggesting as a rule he doesn't think good players can be bought from relegated clubs, but that he doesn't like any players from this year's relegated clubs. If it's reasonable to assume we may only get 3-6 new players at the maximum, and an entire world of football to buy from, it's not crazy to not like anyone from 3 particular clubs. I understand why historically people have fixated on the relegated clubs, because in a world with cheap owners and limited ambition they make for easier pickings, but with CL football and better finances, we don't need to rely on that.
Absolutely this. <ok>

I'm perfectly happy with signing players from relegated clubs or from lower leagues, I just don't particularly rate any players from this batch of relegated teams.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Remember Colo » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:46 pm

Bodacious Benny wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:41 pm
I still don't buy into the notion that there aren't good players at relegated clubs who could improve our squad and do a job. Liverpool signed Andy Robertson from Hull didn't they? That worked out alright. Realistically *most* of the players we bring in will be to supplement the first team initially rather than be a 38 game a season player, other than a left back and possibly a midfielder of some description. There's definitely scope to pick up some younger talent from relegated clubs for fair money to develop them and embed them in the squad. The likes of Lavia, Gnonto, Summerville, Tyler Adams, even Wober who's only 25 so not at his peak for a defender.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certain we'll be looking at a few big, established names for big fees, but there are options to supplement those with potentially if prices are reasonable. I would say I wouldn't be blowing huge money on any of them so that's what it will come down to.
I don't think DT was suggesting as a rule he doesn't think good players can be bought from relegated clubs, but that he doesn't like any players from this year's relegated clubs. If it's reasonable to assume we may only get 3-6 new players at the maximum, and an entire world of football to buy from, it's not crazy to not like anyone from 3 particular clubs. I understand why historically people have fixated on the relegated clubs, because in a world with cheap owners and limited ambition they make for easier pickings, but with CL football and better finances, we don't need to rely on that.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by bodacious benny » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:41 pm

I still don't buy into the notion that there aren't good players at relegated clubs who could improve our squad and do a job. Liverpool signed Andy Robertson from Hull didn't they? That worked out alright. Realistically *most* of the players we bring in will be to supplement the first team initially rather than be a 38 game a season player, other than a left back and possibly a midfielder of some description. There's definitely scope to pick up some younger talent from relegated clubs for fair money to develop them and embed them in the squad. The likes of Lavia, Gnonto, Summerville, Tyler Adams, even Wober who's only 25 so not at his peak for a defender.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certain we'll be looking at a few big, established names for big fees, but there are options to supplement those with potentially if prices are reasonable. I would say I wouldn't be blowing huge money on any of them so that's what it will come down to.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Donkey Toon » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:19 am

I don't think I would be targeting any player from those clubs. We need to be signing better players than we already have if we want to improve the first team and I don't see anybody there that fits that bill. Not even Maddison who I would have liked us to sign a year ago but who I have cooled on due to his poor performances this season.

The best I can see would be Barnes as backup and Gnonto as backup/one for the future, but would only get them once key signings have been made and if we could get them relatively cheaply.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Livin' Ra Mento Loco » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:48 am

Rodrigo? He's been decent this season

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Tsi » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:14 am

Play Like Almiron wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:09 am
I'd also love sinisterra, sulemana and edozie
It's a No, No, and No from me :)

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Livin' Ra Mento Loco » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:09 am

I'd also love sinisterra, sulemana and edozie

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by bodacious benny » Wed May 31, 2023 3:16 pm

Colback's Orange Tufts wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 3:12 pm
Maddison and Tielemans seem obvious, but plenty of teams will want them. We probably need CB cover, but I dunno if any of these teams have good ones. Koch?
Evans if he was 5-6 years younger and not a total crock. Don't think I'd touch anyone else.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Colback's Orange Tufts » Wed May 31, 2023 3:12 pm

Maddison and Tielemans seem obvious, but plenty of teams will want them. We probably need CB cover, but I dunno if any of these teams have good ones. Koch?

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Tsi » Tue May 30, 2023 11:52 am

One player I'd have definitely took is Harvey Barnes.
You look at Leicester forums and you start to wonder if it's a good thing, he's definitely marmite when it comes to their fans <laugh> ,
Below is some views of their fans

50million is a joke! he ain't worth that much relegated or not. I'd be happy with even £30million for him

Incredibly limited winger, take anything north of £30m and run!

I don't get all the disrespect in this thread. He's one of the best wingers in the league

I'd take the 50 million. I really rate Barnes but we can’t turn down that money for an inconsistent player.

Off to Newcastle according to nothing more than a chinese whisper so don’t lump on. Doesn’t seem an Eddie Howe type player to me although wherever he goes he’s going to have to up the defensive side of his game

Will go elsewhere and be an absolute beast.

Lookman was by far our best left winger (less so right) in his time here
Barnes should've been sold post injury when the hype was electric (LFC?) and Lookman who arrived the same August bought for £15m
Losing Lookiman and tripling Barnes contract £££ and only extending by 12 months was insane


He's not really a winger though is he? more of a supplementary forward. A very good one. But he's not a winger.

Would love to keep him personally

So would I because I really rate Barnes as a Mo Salah type player

Like I said a bit of a marmite player, whether any of those comments would be different if they stayed up who knows (I tried to post a lot of the comments from before they were relegated) but personally I'd take him but that depends on how much.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by bodacious benny » Tue May 30, 2023 10:04 am

Who’s to say players like that wouldn’t tho? It doesn’t seem like we’re going down the finished article approach as there are financial considerations to take into account. We’ve seen what Howe has done with the likes of Joelinton, Schar, Longstaff. He can do that with other good players and turn them into great players.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Don Sholeone » Tue May 30, 2023 7:59 am

We need players that will improve the starting 11 and I don't see anyone from Leeds that would do that. Yes there's the squad depth argument but if we start replacing the first 11 with better quality then the squad depth takes care of itself. Tyler Adams is probably their best player but is he ahead of our current midfield options? I'd also put JWP in the same bracket but JWP has the bonus of counting towards the home grown quotas so would be a good option.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by bodacious benny » Tue May 30, 2023 6:44 am

Tyler Adams looked quite good, Gnonto as a young striker with potential. Summerville also fits the good potential bracket.

It's a shame that James Justin from Leicester has been crocked for the best part of 2 years as he'd have been an excellent signing for the leftback position.

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Tsi » Mon May 29, 2023 8:24 pm

yeah he's a bit meh if i was going to look at any from leeds and i don't think i would i'd look at Summerville and Harrison neither a step up in class from what we have

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by Remember Colo » Mon May 29, 2023 6:05 pm

He's hardworking, I'll give him that. But I think I want better with any midfield upgrades?

Re: Players from relegated clubs

by lassassinblanc » Mon May 29, 2023 3:52 pm

Might be one if we want to explore the US market.


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