Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

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Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Cal » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:48 pm

It looks like we're going to have to sell some of our non-homegrown players in upcoming windows, or start to recruit more Englishmen.

For those who aren't aware, the homegrown rule requires our squad to have a minimum of 8 'homegrown' players in our 25 man Premier League squad, although the numbers can be made up by including any under-21 player in the squad list and they count as 'homegrown'. In effect this means that the true limit is 17 non-homegrown players who are over 21 at the start of the season.

A 'homegrown' player is a player who "irrespective of nationality or age, has been affiliated to the FA or Welsh FA for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to 21st birthday", which can also include the season of them turning 21.

Let's take a look at our prospective squad for the the 1st July 13, in a hypothetical world where we make three or four heavily rumoured signings this window.

Non-homegrown
01 Cabaye
02 Anita
03 Cissé
04 Ben Arfa
05 Amalfitano
06 Gutierrez
07 Marveaux
08 Tioté
09 Obertan
10 Debuchy
11 Santon
12 French CB?
13 French CM?
14 French? Striker?
-- Coloccini (off?)
-- Xisco (off?)

Presuming Coloccini is granted his leave between now and the summer, and Xisco isn't retained, that leaves us with 14 non-homegrown players who would need a place in our squad, leaving us with up to 3 more spaces for non-homegrown players.

However we will also potentially have another two players who will classify as under 21 for that season, but become non-homegrown over 21 players in the coming seasons; a French LB and Mehdi Abeid.

We then have our homegrown contingent, these are players who count towards the homegrown quota, but as they'll be classed as over 21 in 13/14, they must be named in the 25 man squad to represent us in the league.

Homegrown
01 Williamson
02 Perch
03 Gosling
04 R Taylor
05 Krul
06 Elliot
07 Shola
08 S Taylor
09 Ranger
10 Ferguson
-- Simpson (off?)
-- Harper (off?)

Presuming Simpson and Harper are not retained, we will have 10 homegrown players who need to be named in the 25 man squad, added to the previous 14 and we're at 24/25 players, and the homegrown quota has been satisfied.

In this hypothetical world we face a problem; many of our homegrown contingent are our weaker/squad players, but we can only add up to three more non-homegrown players, at the expense of a two homegrown players (Ranger? Williamson? Shola? <cry>) before we slam up against both the 25 man squad and the 17 non-homegrown player limits.

Unless we start to sell some of our mostly French imports, we're going to have to start buying English, or otherwise homegrown, soon. Although we do have several players who will still be 'under 21' for 13/14, but will class as homegrown in the seasons after, but it's anyone's guess how many of these will actually make it.

U21s Who Will Be Homegrown
Bigirimana
Sammy
Vuckic
Tavernier
Inman
Dummett
Alnwick
Streete
Moyo (I think he will just qualify)
Knight
Campbell
(not an exhaustive list)

Obviously this is all hypothetical, and likely we will be clearing out more than those who I've listed as expected to leave in the summer, but it's still something to consider. Unless we start selling some of the foreign players we've plucked from overseas at bargain prices, as we go forward, especially if we intend to improve our squad further, we're going to have to start paying the premium associated with English players.

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Having a Good time » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:53 pm

You forgot Inman
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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Don Sholeone » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:55 pm

Saylor?

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Heisen » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 pm

Le Mighty Buche wrote:Saylor?
Both Taylors are mentioned <scratch>
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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Captain Obvious » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 pm

Gosling can get f***ed

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Don Sholeone » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:57 pm

HeatonMag wrote:
Le Mighty Buche wrote:Saylor?
Both Taylor's are mentioned
yup just spotted him, nevermind <laugh>

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Blue & Maroon » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:58 pm

Krul?

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Shola's Answering Machine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:58 pm

Where's Krul? <yikes>
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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Don Sholeone » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:09 pm

YEAH!!!!!! where's Krul??? <mob>

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Vaj » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:24 pm

Krul is homegrown as well <divax>

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Beatski » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:41 pm

bloggable stuff this <scratch>
original content and totally different to any articles doing the rounds at the minute, excellent post <applause>
shame we're not on newsnow, this would get us loads of exposure :bandit:

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Acid Hippo » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:10 pm

Blog It!
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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Cal » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:05 pm

I was in a rush to get to a lecture and working from Premier League squad list, missed Krul on first pass. <wah> Will fix errors soon. Fixed.

I'll blog it tonight, hopefully once some of the hypothetical and mysterious French players become reality.

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Beatski » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 pm

shame we couldnt get it on newsnow <whistle>, this'll get around a bit and one of those low quality blogs will rip it off and bask in the credit...

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Re: Potential 13/14 Squad Problems and the Homegrown Rule

Post by Yacob » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:42 pm

I don't think it's a huge problem as Pardew and owners must be aware of the rule. Maybe that's why we are potentially looking at Jack Butland.

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