Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

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Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by simonbh7 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Please don't jump to the wrong conclusion because of the title. I am not talking about waiting so long for us to win a trophy. (for that, we are amongst the most loyal and patient of fans)

I am referring to the way that we have backed Pards and the team during this disappointing season. It is not so very long ago that if we spent most of the season hovering a few points above the relegation zone, we would have been calling for the manager's head and giving the players a hard time. But this year that hasn't been the case.

Even after the Reading game, although many of us were a bit concerned, there was no real panic or meltdown amongst the fans. Admittedly the way the club responded to the situation and the impact that the new signings made, nipped any disenchantment in the bud, but I get the impression that, because we can see what the club are trying to do, both on and off the field, the fans seem to be far more patient than in years gone by. This can only be a good thing because Pards and the team must know that we REALLY do back them, unlike our unhygenic neighbours who have spent most of the last few months slagging off 90% of their own players (Only Mignolet, Fletcher, and Rose seem to have escaped, and Rose is not even their player) and who, after crowing so loudly about having one of Britain's "Top" managers at the helm, now whinge that he is not up to the job!

I think that our season spent in the Championship probably helped to re-adjust our expectation levels, but many of us hoped for a top 10-8 finish this year and a good run in one of the cups. Although this could still be the case, most of this season has been disappointing, and fans could be forgiven for allowing themselves to show their frustration. But this hasn't really happened. Even when we have not played well there seems to be an air of optimism, a belief that we will get it right, and that we are moving in the right direction. Alan Pardew may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he certainly isn't the worst manager to have, and it will be interesting to see how he manages to take the club forward next year, in what will be one of the longest spells that he has had in charge of any club. He is in the process of building a very good, young squad. Now he has to show that he has the necessary management skills and tactical knowledge to get the best out of these players and get the team performing at the highest level that they are capable of.

We are now reaping the benefits of staying so patient with Pards and the team, and helping to maintain the positive atmoshere at the club. We have a big game on Thursday to look forward to and the team is still aiming for a 10th place finish in the league.

So as they say, patience really is a virtue.
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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by Beatski » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:41 pm

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Post by The Rock Lobster » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:00 pm

Who said that about Anita? <mob>
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Post by Galactico » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:07 pm

In regards to the form in this campaign...Most intelligent fans will realise that the injury problems we have had this season have hurt the team alot. However we all know it could have been avoided with some summer purchases. I think views would be different had we not spent in January either.
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Post by Beatski » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:13 pm

The Rock Lobster wrote:Who said that about Anita? <mob>
loads of people, he'd played under 5 games <disgrace>

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:17 pm

tl;dr <roll>
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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by Aldridge Prior » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:21 pm

In response to the OP, no.

Relegation maybe knocked us down a peg or two but our over-achievements last season seem to have erased the valuable lessons learned from that whole debacle.

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Post by jpg » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:45 pm

I understand where you're coming from but I wouldn't say this season we've shown we've learnt patience after sticking with Pardew through our poor mid-season form. I was always pro-Pardew and knew overcome the blip but needed to spend in order to ensure it- plus we were aware of our injury list and how well Pardew had done last season.

I think the fans have learnt the importance of supporting your team even when times are tough, rather than calling for the managers head.

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Post by Cal » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:47 pm

Yes.
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Post by skalpel » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:51 pm

Aldridge Prior wrote:In response to the OP, no.

Relegation maybe knocked us down a peg or two but our over-achievements last season seem to have erased the valuable lessons learned from that whole debacle.
Really? Most people just seem disappointed that we didn't build on last season's outcome. There hasn't been a sense of entitlement as far as I've noticed - although I suppose I'm only going on what I've seen online.

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Post by Beatski » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:51 pm

Cal wrote:Yes.
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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by Aldridge Prior » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:03 pm

skalpel wrote:
Aldridge Prior wrote:In response to the OP, no.

Relegation maybe knocked us down a peg or two but our over-achievements last season seem to have erased the valuable lessons learned from that whole debacle.
Really? Most people just seem disappointed that we didn't build on last season's outcome. There hasn't been a sense of entitlement as far as I've noticed - although I suppose I'm only going on what I've seen online.
ToonForum has a very mature and level-headed demographic, but you know this already. Until recently the NUFC hashtag on Twitter showed us that fair proportion of our fans are still rather fickle and have short memories.

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Post by tomtom94 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:05 pm

No, we should be in the top 4, Pardew out <mob>
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Post by overseasTOON » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:07 pm

I couldn't define it as patience but certain parts of our support, who in the past have called for managerial changes have been far less vociferous this season.

There were still the annual mutterings of discontent and allegations that the manager didn't know what he was doing but on the whole the support of the manager has been very good.

As for the players; the support has always been there for the majority of the squad all season with just the usual suspects lined up for some abuse such as Jonas, Simpson and Williamson.

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:11 pm

Aldridge Prior wrote: ToonForum has a very mature and level-headed demographic, but you know this already. Until recently the NUFC hashtag on Twitter showed us that fair proportion of our fans are still rather fickle and have short memories.
The people who are obsessed with shitting themselves are the mature football fans? <erk>

But yes, as in any club there are people who have no perspective, context or realism. I think fans now have more patience than before on average, but the issue is not solved.

One of our problems is that the press like to feed the stereotype about Geordies by portraying the idiots as representative of us all. i.e coming up on the train to do a report on a Tuesday afternoon, interviewing people outside the ground. The only people around at that time are people getting their Giro, skivers and kids. Meanwhile the sensible fans are at work saying more level headed things.
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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by Crouching Shola Hidden Talent » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:11 pm

outre-merTOON wrote:I couldn't define it as patience but certain parts of our support, who in the past have called for managerial changes have been far less vociferous this season.

There were still the annual mutterings of discontent and allegations that the manager didn't know what he was doing but on the whole the support of the manager has been very good.

As for the players; the support has always been there for the majority of the squad all season with just the usual suspects lined up for some abuse such as Jonas, Simpson and Williamson.
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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by Alfie » Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:19 pm

I gave up reading the OP just to skip to the responses so I'm guessing the answer's No.
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Post by Blue & Maroon » Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:21 pm

A lot of our fans have simmered down a bit but we still have more than our fair share of utter utter mongs.

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Re: Have we, the fans, finally learned patience?

Post by MitroLand » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:03 pm

Yup, definitely. I can't ever remember seeing a thread on here entitled "He has to go" (or something like that) in which the majority of people called for Pardew's head...! <doh> <disgrace>
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Post by Holystone... » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:08 pm

For one I don't think we have. Without the injury time Stoke win we would be very badly placed.
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