The Relegation Battle

Who's getting relegated?

Poll ended at Sat May 09, 2015 8:14 pm

Aston Villa
0
No votes
Newcastle Utd
31
27%
Hull City
3
3%
Leicester City
0
No votes
Sunderland
10
9%
QPR
34
30%
Burnley
35
31%
 
Total votes: 113

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The Relegation Battle

Post by Cal » Sat May 02, 2015 8:14 pm

So I guess what most of us feared could happen is finally on the verge of becoming a reality.

The table as of 02 May 15:
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14Aston Villa3598182950-2135
15Newcastle Utd3598183660-2435
16Hull City34810163245-1334
17Leicester3597193954-1534
18Sunderland34615132850-2233
19QPR3576223961-2227
20Burnley35511192653-2726
We're currently two points above the drop, and have the second worst goal difference, with only bottom of the the table Burnley having a greater deficit. Hull and Sunderland have games in hand over us; Hull vs Arsenal this Monday, and Arsenal vs Sunderland on Wednesday 20th May.

Let's have a look at the run-ins...

14. Aston Villa - 35
Sat 09 May, 15:00 - West Ham (a)
Sat 16 May, 12:45 - Southampton (a) (BT Sport 1)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - Burnley (h)

Sherwood's side are in form and in their last three games have beat both Everton and Tottenham, as well as giving Man City a tough game in a 2-3 loss. They'll be fine.

15. Newcastle Un-united - 35
Sat 09 May, 15:00 - West Brom (h)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - QPR (a)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - West Ham (h)

On paper that's not too bad, but given our recent displays, Carver openly accusing players of getting sent off on purpose, being down to one fit defender who doesn't even want to be here, etc., I don't see us earning a single point. West Brom always seem to get the better of us, especially when it matters. QPR will actually be fighting for their lives. Big Sam's West Ham will take pleasure in tearing apart whatever shambolic eleven we throw out there and happily send us down.

16. Hull City - 34
Mon 04 May, 20:00 - Arsenal (h) (Sky Sports 1)
Sat 09 May, 15:00 - Burnley (h)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - Tottenham (a)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - Man Utd (h)

A very tough run-in, Burnley aside, but this is a Hull City which just won back-to-back games against Palace and Liverpool. They only need to better us by a point, I can easily see them doing that. Both Tottenham and Man Utd have been in questionable form of late, but that could be a different case in 2-3 weeks.

17. Leicester City - 34
Sat 09 May, 15:00 - Southampton (h)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - Sunderland (a)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - QPR (h)

They've won five of their last six, and were leading at half-time before losing to Chelsea for that blemish on their record. Two relegation six-pointers (after that one against us as well) and a match against a floundering Southampton, they're definitely getting more than a point more than us.

18. Sunderland - 33
Sat 09 May, 12:45 - Everton (a) (BT Sport 1)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - Leicester (h)
Sat 20 May, 15:00 - Arsenal (h) (Sky Sports 1)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - Chelsea (a)

This is the one that really matters, and not because of the whole rivalry thing. Sunderland are the pace setters in the relegation zone, and ultimately the gatekeepers to the Championship; their point tally will decide whether it's themselves or one of the three above them that go down, and given the forecast for Hull and Leicester, that would likely be us. After a dire run of form, although not outdoing our own, they've now begun to pick up points again, winning two of their last four, with a draw and a loss thrown in. In their next four they face an Everton side with nothing to play for, an in-form Leicester trying to create a safety cushion, a seemingly unstoppable Arsenal, and round it off with an away game against the almost certain champions.

Unless Chelsea and Arsenal take it easy once the title is decided, Sunderland's fate will likely be decided in the next two matches. I can see them winning either game and probably drawing the other, but the truth is that they'll likely only need two draws to better us. I would entertain the idea of goal difference separating the sides in our favour if they got ravaged by the two London sides, but it's not as if we're going to be keeping any clean sheets. It doesn't look good.

19. QPR - 27
Sun 10 May, 13:30 - Man City (a) (Sky Sports 1)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - Newcastle (h)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - Leicester (a)


Short of a miracle in Manchester, which the side below them recently pulled off, they're as good as down. However as long as it's mathematically possible they should continue to fight, and what better way to end the season than back-to-back six pointers to keep the dream alive? They'd need to win all three games to overtake us, which I don't see happening.

20. Burnley - 26
Sat 09 May, 15:00 - Hull City (a)
Sat 16 May, 15:00 - Stoke City (h)
Sun 24 May, 15:00 - Aston Villa (a)

Despite the easy run-in, I don't see a Burnley side with as many wins in 2015 as Carver's carved up Newcastle, that being two, stringing together three in a row. Even if they get the two and have the dream of survival dangled in front of them, Villa will likely shut that down.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by hoofball » Sat May 02, 2015 8:17 pm

Burnley, QPR and Us.

Cannot possibly see any other possibility now

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Yacob » Sat May 02, 2015 8:27 pm

If we hadn't lost our last 8 games, I'd fancy it to be Hull or Sunderland, but their wins against Liverpool and Southampton make me think they'll better what we do.

If we bring somebody in then I'd fancy us to stay up.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Toondes » Sat May 02, 2015 8:37 pm

hoofball wrote:Burnley, QPR and Us.

Cannot possibly see any other possibility now
Apart from the possibility it might not be us?
Joking aside, I still think we will stay up. We'll take a long overdue 3 points off West Brom
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Bodacious Benny » Sat May 02, 2015 9:16 pm

Burnley and QPR will go. If Hull beat Burnley then I think they'll finish above us.

We need Leicester to beat Sunderland or we're down I think.
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Tom Turd » Sun May 03, 2015 2:53 am

There is only one relegation place remaining and staying up is not that difficult for the clubs trying to avoid relegation. The target is 35 points from the remaining 3 or 4 games which would then put them level on points with Newcastle but ahead due to a superior goal difference.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Jonas » Sun May 03, 2015 6:18 am

Burnley and QPR will be confirmed as down next weekend, we still have hope - Cisse might return and nick us a win, we might actually put in a display worthy of a team fighting relegation... but, nah we won't do any of that and we will go down!

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Don Sholeone » Sun May 03, 2015 9:11 am

I don't want us to go down, but I wouldn't be able to hide my enjoyment of Ashley's face when all the TV money is ripped from his grasp and the realisation sinks in that his arrogant twatish ways were wrong all along, as an added bonus hopefully we get the pleasure of Carver having to take up a job as a street sweeper, I wonder if he knows a legendary one who he can name drop at every opportunity to get the job <scratch>

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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Sun May 03, 2015 9:22 am

According to nufc.com, Lascelles can't play for us this season

Also, rumours on here Dummett is injured, sauce?
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Post by Micky Quim » Sun May 03, 2015 9:58 am

I still have hope that we will stay up

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by asbo » Sun May 03, 2015 10:06 am

Villa, Hull and Leicester are safe. QPR and Burnley are down. It's Newcastle vs Sunderland in the race for 17th, and they always f***ing beat us.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Chappy » Sun May 03, 2015 1:04 pm

I think we're down. Burnley are done for and it'll be us and either QPR/Sunderland. I've gone for Sunderland though purely cuz their fixture list is minging. They've got the toughest out the lot and they'll do well to stay up. We need to rely on other teams getting beat cuz I can't see us getting another point.

The team has no motivation whatsoever and we now only have one fit first team defender for next week. I'm beyond caring though. If relegation means Ashley will f*** off then I welcome it with open arms. I'm hoping he has a heart attack or gets cancer.
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by TBC » Sun May 03, 2015 1:29 pm

Chappy wrote:I'm hoping he has a heart attack or gets cancer.
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by biggeordiedave » Sun May 03, 2015 1:31 pm

It's absolutely nailed on to be us. Sunderland's result on the final day will determine our fate. Their players will go in knowing they can relegate us and will do it with great pleasure. Our result could do the same but our players will not be even remotely up for it.
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Toondes » Sun May 03, 2015 1:53 pm

TB12 wrote:
Chappy wrote:I'm hoping he has a heart attack or gets cancer.
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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by PTAO? » Sun May 03, 2015 3:52 pm

Battle suggests some sort of fight.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by asbo » Sun May 03, 2015 8:11 pm

Chappy wrote:I think we're down. Burnley are done for and it'll be us and either QPR/Sunderland. I've gone for Sunderland though purely cuz their fixture list is minging. They've got the toughest out the lot and they'll do well to stay up. We need to rely on other teams getting beat cuz I can't see us getting another point.

The team has no motivation whatsoever and we now only have one fit first team defender for next week. I'm beyond caring though. If relegation means Ashley will f*** off then I welcome it with open arms. I'm hoping he has a heart attack or gets cancer.
You think QPR are going to win their final three games?

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Yacob » Sun May 03, 2015 8:41 pm

I'm oddly optimistic today. We probably couldn't have hand selected three better matches and I think we will take 4 or 5 points, which will probably be enough. I still think Hull might go down.

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Micky Quim » Sun May 03, 2015 8:50 pm

Yacob wrote:I'm oddly optimistic today. We probably couldn't have hand selected three better matches and I think we will take 4 or 5 points, which will probably be enough.
<applause> Me too! Lets f***ing do this!!!! <wave>

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Re: The Relegation Battle

Post by Toondes » Sun May 03, 2015 8:53 pm

Is Cisse back now?
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