Earth discussion. What is Earth?

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Post by ghostrider » Mon May 23, 2016 5:01 pm

Cisse's Overheating Torso wrote:
Crossed wires here. This is not a point about science, its about human motivations and the ability to keep secrets in large networks.
Large networks are compartmentalised. Peter does not know what Paul is doing yet they can work for the same firm.
Just to give you an inkling. Peter gets told that the circuit board he's soldering is part of the ignition system for a shuttle/rocket/satellite/mars rover or a nuclear warhead. He gets told that what he's doing is top secret. Paul is also soldering a circuit board in another part of the factory or a similar factory 50 miles away. He's told that his circuit is part of the system for the LHC and he's also under the official secrets act.
Imagine this throughout and yet they all might be making circuitry for play station or whatever.
I've just gave a very basic thought for that but can you see how easy it is for people to believe they're part of something and yet know nothing in reality.
Those same people will brag in later life as to how they were an integral cog in the space machine or whatever they were - or thought they were part of.
Cisse's Overheating Torso wrote:I mean there has to be a good reason why a large group of people are motivated to start and maintain the cover up. Not scientific (or psuedo) logic to theorise the cover up, but the reason for the cover up in the first place.
Reasons are many I suppose. Control is one from those at the top. Money is a powerful weapon for the puppets in the middle. And those at the bottom of the ladder, know nothing, other than to shut up and do what they're paid to do and not to question. It's fairly simply when you think about it.
We're all under it in some way.
Cisse's Overheating Torso wrote:Ie who benefits and how to making up the moon + space + gravity + the standard model + Newtonian dynamics etc
Those who benefit are those that control the masses. To control the masses you must have something to control them with. Money controls the masses.

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Re: Earth discussion. What is Earth?

Post by ghostrider » Mon May 23, 2016 5:11 pm

Cisse's Overheating Torso wrote:
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The gulf of Tonkin. Have you looked into that one?
Again this fits my paradigm. This was a balls up by a chip captain, so there was a clear reason for the US to cover up. The numbers of those involved is low (compared to every scientist/astronaut/major politician out there) so keeping the secret is easier (with the threat of secrets act). And even so there were leaks and such (according to wiki, not an expert)

I'm not saying conspiracies can't be real, but massive world wide ones stretch credibility
I agree they can stretch credibility if it appears that something is far too off the scale as to be viable.
The thing is, there's nothing that is too far off the scale. It can appear like that but as I explained. Compartmentalisation covers all of anything that appears too large.

For instance. To keep a space mission alive in the public eye requires not much more than Hollywood special effects and a place to build large models for later museum purposes.
Of course the argument can be, "not a chance, we've seen the rockets take off. People have seen saturn V rockets launch, live."
Stuff like that. Any person that comes out with that can leave most people in no doubt that it's real.

Just think about the launches. They're miles and miles away. Nobody gets near because the launches are surrounded by water on a large patch of land. The distance is literally 5/6/7/8/9 or whatever miles.
Now most people think of so many miles as being no big deal but it is when you consider you're looking through dense atmosphere on the horizontal towards any potential launch.
The issue is, what is really launched?
On TV it shows a 3000 ton saturn V, so from miles away people can simply assume that's what it is, when it could simply be a ballistic missile launch straight into the drink after it's fuel is spent in short order.

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Post by Ramone » Mon May 23, 2016 6:03 pm

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_ ... ewing.html

So you're saying all of the photos in that link are fake?
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Post by ghostrider » Mon May 23, 2016 6:13 pm

Ramone wrote:http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_ ... ewing.html

So you're saying all of the photos in that link are fake?
Nope. I'm saying that what people believe are massive rockets going into space are nothing more than ballistic missiles at best and in many cases on TV, especially the saturn V rockets of the 60's/70's purported to be 3000 tonnes at launch, are merely Hollywood models.

Those pictures you put up. Take a look at the trajectory. Arcing almost straight away. Arcing into the drink but passed off as if they're heading into space.

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Post by Dr. Bishop » Mon May 23, 2016 6:25 pm

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We develop methods to get to oil where previously we couldn't. There is plenty of oil left in the world, it's just inaccessible, so to say they replenish is bollocks.
How can you be so sure?
Because I have a friend who works in the decommissioning of oil rigs.
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Post by ghostrider » Mon May 23, 2016 6:31 pm

Dr. Bishop wrote:
ghostrider wrote:
How can you be so sure?
Because I have a friend who works in the decommissioning of oil rigs.
No disrespect but what does that prove?

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Post by Dr. Bishop » Mon May 23, 2016 7:21 pm

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Because I have a friend who works in the decommissioning of oil rigs.


No disrespect but what does that prove?
None taken. He has decommissioned rigs in places where the oil has ran out.
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Post by Colback's Orange Tufts » Mon May 23, 2016 7:49 pm

I love the idea that the LHC is classified. And somehow that making up space is the best way to control money.
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Post by Hjl » Mon May 23, 2016 8:20 pm

My favorite part is that this is all some grand conspiracy that no one knows.... Except some random nut. And that with this ground breaking knowledge of massive corruption and cover ups he chooses to share it on.... Toon forum...

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Post by ghostrider » Mon May 23, 2016 8:53 pm

Dr. Bishop wrote:
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No disrespect but what does that prove?
None taken. He has decommissioned rigs in places where the oil has ran out.
Yes, it does run out and rigs cannot simply stand idle for 10 to 20 years at a time, which is what I'm saying about replenishing. I don't mean they just replenish right away, I'm saying that wells have been reopened after a decade or 20 years to find that they've replenished.
Oil rigs are only designed to last a certain time, anyway.

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Post by skalpel » Mon May 23, 2016 10:04 pm

Hjl wrote:My favorite part is that this is all some grand conspiracy that no one knows.... Except some random nut. And that with this ground breaking knowledge of massive corruption and cover ups he chooses to share it on.... Toon forum...
I'll have you know ToonForum once broke the news of a guy spilling tuna fish on his laptop.

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Post by Hjl » Mon May 23, 2016 10:32 pm

skalpel wrote:
Hjl wrote:My favorite part is that this is all some grand conspiracy that no one knows.... Except some random nut. And that with this ground breaking knowledge of massive corruption and cover ups he chooses to share it on.... Toon forum...
I'll have you know ToonForum once broke the news of a guy spilling tuna fish on his laptop.

Ohh, well I stand corrected! I didn't realize laptopgate was broken here!

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Post by Don Sholeone » Tue May 24, 2016 1:50 pm

I'm an astronaut in real life, Ive been into space and observed the earth and confirm it is indeed a square.
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Post by overseasTOON » Tue May 24, 2016 2:07 pm

Don Sholeone wrote:I'm an astronaut in real life, Ive been into space and observed the earth and confirm it is indeed a square.
It's true.

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Post by Duke » Tue May 24, 2016 2:59 pm

ghostrider wrote:
Dr. Bishop wrote:
None taken. He has decommissioned rigs in places where the oil has ran out.
Yes, it does run out and rigs cannot simply stand idle for 10 to 20 years at a time, which is what I'm saying about replenishing. I don't mean they just replenish right away, I'm saying that wells have been reopened after a decade or 20 years to find that they've replenished.
Oil rigs are only designed to last a certain time, anyway.
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Post by ghostrider » Wed May 25, 2016 7:12 am

Is there anything you'd like to discuss pertaining to that video?

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Post by JFK-1 » Wed May 25, 2016 3:25 pm

ghostrider wrote:
Is there anything you'd like to discuss pertaining to that video?
With you? No.

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Post by Duke » Sun May 29, 2016 7:25 pm

Managed to find this guys YouTube account

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTrZJr ... 5Xw/videos
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Post by golasambi » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:34 am

lol ppl laughin at this even tho at time theyd hav been ones sayin earth flat makes me laff

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